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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 4681896, member: 237"] While I think a trip certainly adds value I would say that depending on the changes Red wants to install- there is an argument to be made to spend more time in the gym working hard at it to be as ready as possible with a different system on both ends. Additionally, having 13 guys and then at least 11 that will be in the mix to contribute- your scrimmages in practice should be as good if not better than what you would get on a trip. Still a trip would have been great. Hopefully next year. [/QUOTE]