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Message: [QUOTE="memcorsu, post: 109791, member: 452"] Then I have no problem being the first to start. I was raised in a neighborhood much like many of these young men. My life is comparable to theirs in many ways. The one thing I must say is that my father was a great mentor to not just myself and my brother but many of the young black, asian, and hispanic boys that grew up in my neighborhood. The one constant that they had was the strictness but fairness that he used. When I go back home and catch up with many of them they are beyond greatful for what my father did for them. It shows in their person, their family life, and in the community. All from seeds my father lovingly and tenderly planted 20 + years ago in young "down trodden" poor urban kids. Looks at this world, I am glad there is one person who is willing to "not win at all costs". That being said, I know for a fact that DM gives people multiple chances and possibly beyond multiple chances. [/QUOTE]