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Message: [QUOTE="kingottoiii, post: 281900"] Um no. The fact that they weren't forward thinking and trying to expand, even if it was just keeping Temple while adding Louisville, Cincy, and USF. The fact that they didn't listen to Miami and their master plan was to merge with ACC FB. The fact that they couldn't get more TV money with Miami, VT, and BC. That all equals suck. The key to the ACC raid was getting Miami. The same could have been if the BE went hard after FSU. Why not take FSU, Clemson, ECU, and offer Temple all sports or nothing? South: FSU, Clemson, ECU, VT, Temple, RU North: Miami, WV, Pitt, UConn, SU, BC That would have given the BE 12 FB and 18 BBall schools. It also would have given the BE a D1A FB team in all but MD and GA on the East coast. BTW that would have left the ACC at 7 teams with no one to really add. Maybe Louisville. [/QUOTE]