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I know this has been a topic before, but at what point does the AD sit down and lock him up long term? I personally feel that if we get to 4-3, he's shown enough improvement to lock him up with another 3 years. Give him some stability to sell to recruits.

4-3 may be a little soon, but many of us thought 7-5 was the goal this year. The offense has improved dramatically an the entire team is still young. We didn't have a full roster until this year and we still play an inordinate amount of true freshman. You ant build a dynasty without stability. Let's give the fan base and team some for once.
 
Hope the AD already has this in the plan -- all except the timing of the announcement. It would be better to do it after we have a two game winning streak (not including SB). It would be almost universally applauded. He already has made us competitive; the tone is much better; the direction is positive. Have to give him credit for his staff, including Doug's decision (with some risk) to bring in young Hackett and give him more authority year over year.

But, still, you want to see a few BCS wins as the platform for the announcement. There are alumni gatherings to celebrate the Campaign around Nov 2-3 (but an away game). Would be terrific to have a winning streak and an annoucement before that weekend.
 
Gross has to have a plan already. Unless Coach bombs in the next few weeks, I believe the extension is already prepared.
 
Gross may already have given him an extension and not announced it yet. Seems like a foregone conclusion at this point.
 
It may be that Dr Gross is playing with his cards close to the vest. He isn't going to go out on a limb all alone and then run into another losing streak. He needs something to hang his hat on (geez, can I use any more idioms in one post?) .

We need an over under for when DM gets an extension. I say the over-under is UCONN. I say its after we beat the Huskies.
 
Gross may already have given him an extension and not announced it yet. Seems like a foregone conclusion at this point.
The rarely discussed "silent contract"!
 
Man, can't believe this. Can we win a few games in convincing fashion with little to no mental mistakes, zero game management issues and then talk about contract extension? I love marrone and think he is right fit, but he HAS to win games at this point. Absolutely has to win.
 
I know this has been a topic before, but at what point does the AD sit down and lock him up long term? I personally feel that if we get to 4-3, he's shown enough improvement to lock him up with another 3 years. Give him some stability to sell to recruits.

4-3 may be a little soon, but many of us thought 7-5 was the goal this year. The offense has improved dramatically an the entire team is still young. We didn't have a full roster until this year and we still play an inordinate amount of true freshman. You ant build a dynasty without stability. Let's give the fan base and team some for once.

Read Bud's 40 game column.

There's your annoucement.

Gross knows the program internals. He knows where the program has come Point A to Point B, he knows what's on staff, what's on the roster, and what's in the pipeline. If he's doing his job he's contacting key HS HC's and AD's to get feedback. He's in touch with people outside the program for their perspective. And he knows which way the money is flowing.

He's not going to be swayed by this years win loss record if the program internals are all pointing upwards.
 
Read Bud's 40 game column.

There's your annoucement.

Gross knows the program internals. He knows where the program has come Point A to Point B, he knows what's on staff, what's on the roster, and what's in the pipeline. If he's doing his job he's contacting key HS HC's and AD's to get feedback. He's in touch with people outside the program for their perspective. And he knows which way the money is flowing.

He's not going to be swayed by this years win loss record if the program internals are all pointing upwards.

Why doesn't he have it yet then?

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If he gets an extension after not winning a D1 game since last October, we will have undeniable proof that we've become Duke - a total basketball school!
 
If he gets an extension after not winning a D1 game since last October, we will have undeniable proof that we've become Duke - a total basketball school!

REALLY, COME ON YOU'VE GOT BETTER REMARKS THAN THAT, BRING IT. MAKE IT COUNT!
 
I think everyone knows where I stand on this. The extension is just another step towards us moving to the ACC. No sense in having a new HC heading into a new conference who has to recreate his recruiting pipelines and roster. Doug has shown improvements in areas and has left things to be desired in others, no question. I still think the positives far outweigh the negatives. Lock him up and show everyone they are committed to him. I think that would help with recruiting and would eliminate this entire topic amongst SU fans for the time being.

With that said, In Doug I Trust.
 
This is a tough call. Does he deserve one? Probably. Will he get one? I definitely think he will at some point this season or very shortly thereafter. Extensions are given because the program is headed in the right direction. Check. Or because you don't want a guy to leave. He's not going anywhere. Or for recruiting. If some were to be believed here, we are done this class. I don't believe it.

But, it's tough to give a coach an extension based on stats and perception. We could average 600 ypg on offense and sign a bunch of 4 and 5 star kids, but if we don't win, none of it matters. Wins are the ONLY tangible measuring stick.

I say give him an extension during the season when we get above .500. Otherwise wait until after the season.

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This is a tough call. Does he deserve one? Probably. Will he het one? I definitely think he will at some point this season or very shortly thereafter. Extensions are given because the program is headed in the right direction. Check. Or because you don't want a guy to leave. He's not going anywhere. Or for recruiting. If some were to be believed here, we are done this class. I don't believe it.

But, it's tough to give a coach an extension based on stats and perception. We could average 600 ypg on offense ams sign a bunch of 4 and 5 star kids, but if we don't win, none of it matters. Wins are the ONLY tangible measuring stick.

I say give him an extension during the season when we get above .500. Otherwise wait until after the season.

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What IF we never get above .500 this year? Then what? What if this team just struggles to win games this year vs teams on par with them or slightly better that remain on their schedule? Keep losing close? Then what?

I know I am in the minority (and you all can feel free to pile on because I know most will disagree with me and most of you will call me a bunch of childish names because that's how some you debate things) but he broke a 7 game losing streak by beating Stony Brook at home a Div 1AA team, nothing to get excited about. It's tough to give a guy an extension based on the fact he is "losing close" and "has an exciting offense that is fun to watch now." Some would say where was this "style" of offense the first 3 years? Do the first 3 years not count? I understand it was a big rebuild job but its year 4, beat somebody! Is that asking too much? The bar can't be set any lower than it is for him and for Syracuse football. He better start tomorrow with beating Minnesota's "B" team! A loss there and there is no positive spin to put on that! And I don't want to hear the excuses! He better beat Minnesota.

Let's be honest, IF SU loses to Minny, has a BYE WEEK, then loses to Pitt at home (a team they have beaten once in 10 years)...does Doug deserve an extension? Based on what? LOSING? Even if he wins a couple games vs some bottom level crappy Big East teams the final part of the year how can you justify giving him an extension? I don't see how ya can. We would be going backwards. Hell we would for all purposes be out of bowl contention by Columbus Day for christ sakes in my above scenario. Need to run the table almost. That isn't good! Coaches in a rebuilding process win more games as they stay longer on the job. Doug would have had his biggest success with Robinson's players and be getting worse with his own guys.

It's a tough sell to tell people: Doug has been here 4 years, the record peaked in year 2 and now is getting worse each year but he is a good coach, nevermind the fact he doesn't win many games and is coming off a 2 horrible seasons. He is the guy to lead us going forward.

I would be in no rush at all to give him an extension until he can beat some FBS teams on a regular basis. And IF (I said IF I am not predicting this next part, I am just saying worst case scenario, I have to point this out because it has confused people in the past) SU wins less than 5 games this year I don't see how in the world you give him an extension at all and they must keep all their options open. I would rather go into the ACC with fresh blood than a guy who struggled to win games in the Big East over 4 years. It's year 4 for Doug, no more excuses. He is playing in the worst BCS conference out there, and it's not like Minnesota, Stony Brook, and Northwestern are Oklahoma, LSU, and Ohio St! And 2 of those games were at home and Minny is missing a ton of guys! I won't rip Doug for losing to USC or Missouri because BOTH of those schools are out of our league. But the rest of the schedule is nothing too difficult. Beat somebody decent before the extension talk continues.

Doug can start with beating Minnesota tomorrow. Then beat Pitt in 2 weeks and then win a couple more vs some awful Big East teams and this issue goes away and
you happily give him a big fat extension and lock him up long-term. Until he can prove he can do that (I am not sure he can honestly in my opinion) this extension talk is premature.
 
This is a tough call. Does he deserve one? Probably. Will he get one? I definitely think he will at some point this season or very shortly thereafter. Extensions are given because the program is headed in the right direction. Check. Or because you don't want a guy to leave. He's not going anywhere. Or for recruiting. If some were to be believed here, we are done this class. I don't believe it.

But, it's tough to give a coach an extension based on stats and perception. We could average 600 ypg on offense and sign a bunch of 4 and 5 star kids, but if we don't win, none of it matters. Wins are the ONLY tangible measuring stick.

I say give him an extension during the season when we get above .500. Otherwise wait until after the season.

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Agree completely.

In my view, at least in large part, is what you've mentioned, Doug isn't going anywhere. As a dedicated alum, he has stated this is his dream job. Additionallly, although he has made positive inroads with the program, on its face, his win/loss record is not impressive, and, he has no prior tract record of success at this level. Therefore, Doug Marrone is not a coach that is getting a lot of attention or buzz out there in the national spotlight creating any extra demand...or substantial leverage for him to create the urgency for SU to resign/extend him.
 

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