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Message: [QUOTE="RF2044, post: 1383839, member: 40"] Nobody questions a kid like Lemon's talent--he was a fine player--one of the best players in the world at his position, which is why he had a cup of coffee in the NFL [and his story is still being written, btw]. He was a fine college player. He just wasn't "high end talent" -- look at the players from the power programs as a basis of comparison. Ditto Hogue, Carter, and probably Nassib. It doesn't detract from those players' accomplishments, or undersell their talent--to the contrary, those guys made it to the NFL. That Marrone was able to win with those caliber of players being our best players, and without a roster full of players at least as good or better than them, suggests that Marrone was a pretty solid coach. I don't get the point you are making about "you can't develop everyone into D1 talent." Of course--you can't take a badminton player and turn him into a DT. But it isn't like Marrone was recruiting scrubs as some posts in this thread seem to suggest. He improved the overall depth, talent, and size of the team tangibly over the course of his brief tenure. He just didn't land skilled talent that would enable the program to take his success to the next level [not sure that can be disupted]. But it isn't like he was recruiting a bunch of non-D1 caliber athletes--his recruiting improved every season, year over year. So did the results on the field for the most part [with the blip in 2011, due to massive injuries]. Your point about what he was able to make out of GRob recruits only applies in a handful of cases, across a roster of 85 players. There were numerous examples of Marrone's recruits performing at a high level [example--Shamarko Thomas]. In fact, I think Marrone's coaching staff did a more than adquate recruiting every positional unit except QB and WR. The results there were subpar. [/QUOTE]

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