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Message: [QUOTE="dasher, post: 1383899, member: 6061"] That is a lot of excuses for Doug. Let's just go with facts. He didn't or couldn't bring in a quality QB. His big QB recruit is now playing wide out for another school. I know this, we don't have good qb play at this time. And the ones we do have, got hurt and were out. It is impossible to win like that if you are Syracuse. If you are Ohio st., fine. Our wide outs last year were not as good as when we had Mike Williams. Of course before Marrone threw him off the team. Provo was a better tight end than anything we had last year. Carter and Brinkley were a lot better than any of the backs we played with last year. Where is all of this talent you speak of? It's nonsense. [/QUOTE]