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Message: [QUOTE="kcsu, post: 501820, member: 528"] To be clear the people i have met has been through my Father and before he passed away through my great uncle. My Uncle went to SU as did My father and many other family members. We have been blessed as a family to have done well and we have helped out the University. Not just the sports programs but the University. My Dads best friend played football for SU and my Father went on to become a doc and ended up in research. My Uncle was a doc and other family members ended up in Law or medicine for the most part. I run a software company. Anyway my dad talks about hanging out with Jim Brown and the guys and when we go back we almost always head to my dads frat for a beer down before the games. My Dad is a very private person and has never made a donation in his name as that isnt his thing. I would say that out of all the individuals involved with the football progam the one person who i know the best is Doctor Gross. My understanding of the situation is very simple. I truly believe that Doug told Doc and others that he was not going to hire Hack. As to other assistants i do not have a clue. Much of what i post about Doug results from the way he treated my father on two seperate occasions. Basically like he was doing all of us a huge favor in meeting with us. I can say that at the end of this tenure i believe Doug became a good football coach. I can also say that based on two meetings that i sat in on i felt that he was arrogant and stubborn. A my way or the highway kind of guy. Might be the NYC swagger might have been that he was just tired and really busy who knows still he did not leave a good impression. I like others am grateful for what Doug did to bring our program back. I will always be thankful for the work that he did and the results that he achieved. I wish him good luck in Buffalo and think that he will do better in the NFL than in college as he is a true CEO type of leader. This will be my last post on Doug and his leaving. I believe that my information is solid and i wish that he would have kept his word. [/QUOTE]

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