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Message: [QUOTE="swish7, post: 784108, member: 486"] I don't mean to deify you OttoinGrotto, but that is an incredibly good post. I do not get the deification of Marrone. He is no Coach Mac. He is not even a Pasqualoni. I hope his tenure becomes a blip on the radar someday. The next successful coach will do it on their own merits. And if so, I hope we remember that coach as their own man. I love mythology, "gut", and hypotheses as much as anyone, but there is a faction on this board that puts the coach above the program. Like they are his little PR staff. I do not get why any coach is given an automatic 3-4 year leash. We gave it to Grobbycakes. We also gave Pasqualoni more years than was reasonable to pull us out of a tailspin. I hope this does not happen with Shafer. I hope he succeeds, but if it is evident he won't succeed, let's cut bait with he and Gross, and get serious. I am all over the place here. I am an olympic sports fan. However, it seems with every football hire under Gross's tenure there are some extenuating circumstances short circuiting the selection process, leaving a lot to be desired. I remember the joke-show that was the Marrone hiring presser. The now disgraced Skanaetles coach practically ripping the mike from Gross's hands. Marrone sort of snidely thanking Gross. Fast forward to Marrone leaving us in a lurch, and taking half the staff with him. The board was almost universally in uproar over him. Even folks like OrangePA were made. I don't remember what happened to restart the deification, but within 4-6 months he was a hero again. Did he give some money or something? I hope Marrone succeeds in Buffalo. I hope Coughlin gets it going again in NY. These are all good things for SU. However, what we need most is for Shaffer to get his ship together. These are Grobbycakes-esque losses. Due in part to Marrone's recruiting, apparently, and how he left the program. So, deification? No, thank you. [/QUOTE]

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