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Message: [QUOTE="sufandu, post: 3613507, member: 874"] I tnought this was the first year they were going to have a losing record with Watson as the starter, so I had to look it up. It looks like this will be the 2nd out of 4 seasons they'll have a losing record. The asterisk is that in 2017 he got hurt and they were 3-3 with him starting. I hadn't looked up Detroit before either. In the 12 years he has been there they have had 4 winning records. It looks like he was hurt in 2010 when he played 3 games and they had a losing record. [/QUOTE]