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Message: [QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 1859551, member: 2585"] Of course. I'm not seeing the disagreement. What I'm arguing is that when fans see "rebuild to take longer" I think that there is an inherent gap between what fans already expect vs what Babers expects. That most non-Syracusefan fans have been beaten down to not expect what's possible in this system with a very good HC in Babers. So a rebuild in Babers world is Conf Championships A rebuild in the minds of the local fan is 7-8 wins regularly His tamping down of expectations is brilliant - because they already are with a lot of depressed, used-to-be-a-fan-but-now-I-just-follow-basketball. I sat with a bunch at the UNC BBall game when he was announced. Lots of sighs and "yeah rights" up in the 300's. [/QUOTE]