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[QUOTE="CuseOnly, post: 2408025, member: 2804"]
I don't agree that the argument is dead, I think it is alive and well which is why we are arguing it now.

The CCG is almost like a playoff in itself giving teams that are on the bubble of getting in a chance to puff up their resume or fail.  Or elevate teams in the conversation, a "last chance mind changer for the committee."

Point is that ND has excluded itself from that opportunity by choice.

It will be extremely difficult for a 1 loss ND to get in over a team with a similar resume that played an extra game for a conference championship.  We saw that with TCU and Baylor from the Big 12 (2014-2015), both had one loss and very good resumes and were both left out, no CCG.  Would a 1 loss ND have gotten in that year, not likely at all.  What makes you think that a 1 loss ND has more of a chance than those teams in any given year??

IMO - ND has zero chance unless they are undefeated and have a resume commensurate with other teams that would get in.  OR with 1 loss having played 5 or 6 highly ranked teams soundly thumping them all.  In other words they need a resume that cannot be ignored, which honestly, all 4 P5 conferences will have after playing the top teams in certain divisions.
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