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Message: [QUOTE="MaxwellCuse, post: 913490, member: 1240"] I am admittedly one of those "dopes" who don't know squat about the players in this farce as I moved out of CNY 30-some years ago. However, I've been around NYS politics for a long time and reluctantly I've got to agree with Kathleen Joy -- the project is dead. "Knowing how things work, we missed the opportunity to set aside $250 million from the state for a downtown project,'' Joy said. "We missed it, it's gone. There's not going to be any county money available, there's no state money available. We can have a task force, we can ask questions. My personal opinion is that all of those efforts are moot.'' [/QUOTE]