McCord

[wfschrec]

True and showcasing physical ability and arm talent goes alot further when you're playing higher caliber defenses.

I think McCord should get a real shot in the NFL but just playing devils advocate. If an NFL scout looks up the defenses he faced this year what's he going to see. Miami the highest ranked team we played all year has already canned their D Coordinator and was pretty awful all year in pass defense. That leaves what like BC, V Tech, UNLV. etc as the next best defenses we played.

If he can ball out next year against ND, Tenn, Clemson then he's really making a statement that he should be starting on Sundays. If not then playing the QB2 gig will still be there in 2026 for him anyway,

Schedule doesn’t have the impact you want it to. If that were the case Zach Wilson wouldn’t have gone round 1 and moving to Oregon and a softer schedule didn’t impact Bo Nix either. It’s all about the measurables and how he interviews.

 

[Red2003]

Schedule doesn’t have the impact you want it to. If that were the case Zach Wilson wouldn’t have gone round 1 and moving to Oregon and a softer schedule didn’t impact Bo Nix either. It’s all about the measurables and how he interviews.

Hah. You're using Bo Nix as your example. Same guy that had a great game against Natty Runner up Washington last year before getting drafted? Yes a softer schedule his Senior year but those teams are miles above what we played this year.

If you don't believe me check the metrics this year and show me a top 50 defensive team we played this year. Those are measurables too and at some point we have to be realistic and look at the opposing teams we played.

 

[sufandu]

Which solidifies my point the schedule doesn’t move the needle enough.

I think that a guy that doesn't have jump off the page physical ability can benefit from proving that he can get it done against tougher competition. In basketball I think about a guy like Steph Curry. Despite his crazy skills, there were doubters that were concerned that his college success was due to a lower level of competition and weren't convinced it would translate to the pros. It's not an apples to apples comparison, but the point is the same.

Having said all that, I don't know that that's a strong enough case to return. He has two years of footage on film. Scouts may have seen enough to draw their conclusions. He may benefit more by proving himself in a NFL camp. The difference there is that he's only auditioning for whatever team he gets drafted by or signs with.

 

[wfschrec]

Hah. You're using Bo Nix as your example. Same guy that had a great game against Natty Runner up Washington last year before getting drafted? Yes a softer schedule his Senior year but those teams are miles above what we played this year.

If you don't believe me check the metrics this year and show me a top 50 defensive team we played this year. Those are measurables too and at some point we have to be realistic and look at the opposing teams we played.

Their SOS was not significantly higher than ours was … he lost that game btw … lost to them twice and had 3 ranked wins none vs a top 10 team like McCord so yes I used him as an example. BTW Washingtons defensive rank was 99th thank you again for proving my point.

 

[Jake]

Interesting note about the JuCo ruling. It only applies to Jucos who meet certain criteria…specifically those who are in their final year of eligibility in 24-25 academic year.

It’s essentially extending these particular athletes a 5th year. My sense is that its really the first step toward 5 to play 5.

I think the NCAA has or will approve the McCord waiver.

I think it’s time to get the boombox outside McCord’s window.

 

[Cuseregular]

Interesting note about the JuCo ruling. It only applies to Jucos who meet certain criteria…specifically those who are in their final year of eligibility in 24-25 academic year.

It’s essentially extending these particular athletes a 5th year. My sense is that is really the first step toward 5 to play 5.

I think the NCAA has or will approve the McCord waiver.

I think it’s time to get the boombox outside McCord’s window.

I think your NCAA line there is the first part of that same line. Now we cross the fingers it makes more sense to him with all the factors at play to come back vs leave. At first transitory glance based on what we seem to currently know, it WOULD make sense hard numbers wise. Get an insurance policy for injury too.

Add in the intangible factors ya can’t quantify (how much he apparently enjoyed playing the game of football here versus what he was dealing with in the past, playing for Fran and that dart philosophy, spending another year doing the college life thing, etc.), Its starting to look like it’s no longer 50/50 on all this, more like 65/35 he returns

 

[Nicknack]

Interesting note about the JuCo ruling. It only applies to Jucos who meet certain criteria…specifically those who are in their final year of eligibility in 24-25 academic year.

It’s essentially extending these particular athletes a 5th year. My sense is that is really the first step toward 5 to play 5.

I think the NCAA has or will approve the McCord waiver.

I think it’s time to get the boombox outside McCord’s window.

I'm curious how many here don't understand that reference. Most probably do, but not some of the younger bucks (maybe born 1980 or later).

 

[orangepassion]

What I think some aren't thinking about is there's no guarantee that McCord makes the NFL and even if he does, that he becomes a starter. There's only about 30 of those in the world. He returns to Syracuse, it gives him one last guaranteed chance to be the man and lead a team, as well as get more experience to help him become a better QB to hopefully succeed in the NFL. Additionally, he gets a guaranteed good payday if he returns. He goes to the NFL, there's so many factors that affect making a team and it will likely be there in a year as much as it is this year. Once you go to the NFL, there's no do over.

 

[Red2003]

Interesting note about the JuCo ruling. It only applies to Jucos who meet certain criteria…specifically those who are in their final year of eligibility in 24-25 academic year.

It’s essentially extending these particular athletes a 5th year. My sense is that is really the first step toward 5 to play 5.

I think the NCAA has or will approve the McCord waiver.

I think it’s time to get the boombox outside McCord’s window.

Nice. Now who has these NFL teams on speed dial? We need them to nudge McCord back to College. Our selfishness for another good year outweighs what's best for Kyle. Sorry but we've been waiting for too long to see back to back good years of football

 

[djorange1989]

I'm curious how many here don't understand that reference. Most probably do, but not some of the younger bucks (maybe born 1980 or later).

I hope we don’t get dissed in our Malibu and Kyle comes back, and doesn’t just give us a pen. Yes, this is one of the greatest movies of all time

 

[sweetpea]

If Kyle can return is it a given that it will be with us. Is he going to take a discount for next year, and do we have the money to pay what he might get elsewhere? I don't mean to be blasphemous here.

 

[dasher]

If Kyle can return is it a given that it will be with us. Is he going to take a discount for next year, and do we have the money to pay what he might get elsewhere? I don't mean to be blasphemous here.

The money will be there for McCord if he wants to come back. It's funny. If McCord comes back, I predict the money will pour in to the program. On the hoop side, who could really use the money, the money isn't there. People will donate to a winner.

 

[JRHEETER]

If Kyle can return is it a given that it will be with us. Is he going to take a discount for next year, and do we have the money to pay what he might get elsewhere? I don't mean to be blasphemous here.

If Kyle decides to return, he will 100% only play for Fran Brown

 

[Qbobby]

Kyle with the criteria he will use for his decision.

 

[phil77]

The money will be there for McCord if he wants to come back. It's funny. If McCord comes back, I predict the money will pour in to the program. On the hoop side, who could really use the money, the money isn't there. People will donate to a winner.

For the first time I can remember the Football program is the program with a fun exciting style of play and with a dynamic coach. The basketball program has a lot of ground to make up or the football program will keep pulling away and all the dollars will be shifted from hoops to football.

 

[vegasnick]

Where’s are you getting $12m for 2nd/3rd rounders? Late first round picks get a 4yr-$12m deal. Late 2nd’s get about 4 for $6.5-7m and late 3rd 4 for $5.5-6m

I shared a link to where i got the information from my previous post. I wouldn't just pull numbers out of thin air.

 

[DoctorBombay]

True and showcasing physical ability and arm talent goes alot further when you're playing higher caliber defenses.

I think McCord should get a real shot in the NFL but just playing devils advocate. If an NFL scout looks up the defenses he faced this year what's he going to see. Miami the highest ranked team we played all year has already canned their D Coordinator and was pretty awful all year in pass defense. That leaves what like BC, V Tech, UNLV. etc as the next best defenses we played.

If he can ball out next year against ND, Tenn, Clemson then he's really making a statement that he should be starting on Sundays. If not then playing the QB2 gig will still be there in 2026 for him anyway,

He played against tough defenses in the B1G, and acquitted himself well, Michigan being the toughest. Not withstanding the ACC, he's shown he can produce at the highest level.
Dozens of prognosticators have whiffed on QBs in the past. Brock Purdy was "Mr Irrelevant" ffs- and still got the Niners to a Super Bowl.
IMO, teams that pass on Kyle will come to regret it, and if he gets into the right system, he'll succeed at the next level. Book markit!

 

[Nick44]

Isn’t the NCAA the NFLs biggest competition? I’m sure I am missing something obvious but with NIL now able to pay players legally, why not let kids stay in college as long as they want to and are able to find a roster? Wouldn’t that benefit the overall competition in the NCAA and screw the NFL in some ways? I know it sounds ridiculous but what am I missing?

 

[DownTheField]

Isn’t the NCAA the NFLs biggest competition? I’m sure I am missing something obvious but with NIL now able to pay players legally, why not let kids stay in college as long as they want to and are able to find a roster? Wouldn’t that benefit the overall competition in the NCAA and screw the NFL in some ways? I know it sounds ridiculous but what am I missing?

There wouldn’t be much turnover so high school kids wouldn’t get a chance to play anywhere, and the ones that do would be playing against grown men. It would also end the whole idea of college athletics.

 

[SuFTW]

What I think some aren't thinking about is there's no guarantee that McCord makes the NFL and even if he does, that he becomes a starter. There's only about 30 of those in the world. He returns to Syracuse, it gives him one last guaranteed chance to be the man and lead a team, as well as get more experience to help him become a better QB to hopefully succeed in the NFL. Additionally, he gets a guaranteed good payday if he returns. He goes to the NFL, there's so many factors that affect making a team and it will likely be there in a year as much as it is this year. Once you go to the NFL, there's no do over.

While maybe true, I don’t think Kyle is going to base his decision on the possibility of not making the NFL.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

You guys are still at it, huh?

 

[wfschrec]

You guys are still at it, huh?

We have a new goal for page count lol

 

[GoSU96]

If Kyle can return is it a given that it will be with us. Is he going to take a discount for next year, and do we have the money to pay what he might get elsewhere? I don't mean to be blasphemous here.

He’s either playing here or NFL

 

[Sudano]

Isn’t the NCAA the NFLs biggest competition? I’m sure I am missing something obvious but with NIL now able to pay players legally, why not let kids stay in college as long as they want to and are able to find a roster? Wouldn’t that benefit the overall competition in the NCAA and screw the NFL in some ways? I know it sounds ridiculous but what am I missing?

Is it about college education at all anymore?

 

[Nick44]

There wouldn’t be much turnover so high school kids wouldn’t get a chance to play anywhere, and the ones that do would be playing against grown men. It would also end the whole idea of college athletics.

You’re not wrong but this image of college athletics has been dead for 50 years. It’s just as much a business that is in competition with the NFL. The best players would play, high school kids would either have to beat out guys who are older, transfer or join the club team.