McCord

[cuse62]

I keep coming back to this thread to see if he was granted his waiver. I hear myself asking the question in a Pirates of the Caribbean captain voice, “Do we have a McCord?”

 

[texascpa]

I keep coming back to this thread to see if he was granted his waiver. I hear myself asking the question in a Pirates of the Caribbean captain voice, “Do we have a McCord?”

The answer is above. Appeal rejected.

 

[wiseman3]

The answer is above. Appeal rejected.

Where? This?

FYI, if the waiver appeal is denied, there will not be an announcement. Kyle will just go on his merry way.

*If* would be the key word here

 

[oldpinepoint]

Rob was a parade all American the same year Cordell Mitchell was. Cory went to Penn St instead of SUnbc Joe Pa sold him on being “the guy” and then Joe Pa told Curtis Enis the same thing and Cory played sparingly. College football is about taking every opportunity you can to play.

I played against Cordell in high school, that kid was fast.

 

[djorange1989]

I hope that Kyle isn't letting the waiver situation distract him from his bowl preparations. We need to have his head in the game, and not allow this to become another Pitt nightmare.

Who’s going to pick him off 5 times, the WSU waterboy?

 

[TheHaze315]

So if you were coach, how would you explain to your number 2 that despite him working his way up the depth chart, you were going to play the guy he beat out? Would you tell him it’s because you have a crystal ball and saw him years and another team later setting records, and he may need to stay on the bench due to the potential?

You tell him you don’t want to burn his redshirt because you see him potentially being the future of the team, and going in to hand the ball off in garbage time makes no sense. It’s not like QB1 went down late in the year and he put Kyle in, he could’ve preserved his redshirt with zero impact on Kyle or the team, and decided not to.

 

[upperdeck]

Everyone here wants Kyle to get the extra year (me too, obviously), but some of the things that are being said are just nuts. "Day should have put in his 3rd string QB over his 2nd string QB (McCord) in the blowout to preserve his eligibility." In what world would that ever happen on any team? You put the 2nd stringer in to get him reps. Too many folks trying to justify why Kyle should get the extra year. Again, I hope he does and it seems more likely than it did a few weeks ago, from what I read here.

this used to happen all the time

 

[pokercuse08]

So if you were coach, how would you explain to your number 2 that despite him working his way up the depth chart, you were going to play the guy he beat out? Would you tell him it’s because you have a crystal ball and saw him years and another team later setting records, and he may need to stay on the bench due to the potential?

"Listen, Kyle, you're our QB2. If CJ gets hurt it's your show the rest of the way. But we're not going to burn a year of eligibility for garbage time handoffs and a few passes, so now that you've played in four games, if we need mop up duty we're going to use QB3. You may not love this right now, but it's for your own good."

He basically threw half his passes (18) in his first appearance, and 3, 3, 6, and 8 in the next four. Miller threw 8 against Akron and 1, 2, and 3 in the next three.

This is very poorly managed. There is no reason to burn a game for two players to have them each throw 4-5 total passes if there's any danger in blowing a redshirt.

And imo if you're going to put a QB in for experience let him run the offense. It's not unsportsmanlike IMO if you're playing a bunch of backups.

 

[dasher]

"Listen, Kyle, you're our QB2. If CJ gets hurt it's your show the rest of the way. But we're not going to burn a year of eligibility for garbage time handoffs and a few passes, so now that you've played in four games, if we need mop up duty we're going to use QB3. You may not love this right now, but it's for your own good."

He basically threw half his passes (18) in his first appearance, and 3, 3, 6, and 8 in the next four. Miller threw 8 against Akron and 1, 2, and 3 in the next three.

This is very poorly managed. There is no reason to burn a game for two players to have them each throw 4-5 total passes if there's any danger in blowing a redshirt.

And imo if you're going to put a QB in for experience let him run the offense. It's not unsportsmanlike IMO if you're playing a bunch of backups.

where do you play?

 

[CusefanATL]

The answer is above. Appeal rejected.

Hello. Let’s get off politics. What does this mean?

 

[oldpinepoint]

Cory was one of the best athletes to come out of this area. A different school and he’s an all American. He’s still in amazing shape, too.

Glad to hear that, they just ran sweep left, sweep right and he would hit the corner and be gone. He was incredible

 

[Sdot]

We better hope he gets another year…Salters just committed too Colorado.

 

[dasher]

We better hope he gets another year…salters just committed too Colorado.

Damn. I just can't see the rational for him getting another year. I would love it but ??? This is why the second best answer in life is always NO. It free's you to do something else.

 

[Sdot]

Damn. I just can't see the rational for him getting another year. I would love it but ???

Yea me either, this season gonna be really tough if he doesn’t though. New Qb,TE,Wr2,Rb,4-5 new offensive line. New edge,2 line backers,3 corners and 1 new safety. Love you coach Fran, your gonna have to have some freshman step up.

 

[dasher]

Yea me either, this season gonna be really tough if he doesn’t though. New Qb,TE,Wr2,Rb,4-5 new offensive line. New edge,2 line backers,3 corners and 1 new safety. Love you coach Fran gonna have to have some freshman step up.

Let's wait on that. I am confident that Fran will have a great portal year. Maybe we will build up the defense. Maybe the offense will be good in a different way. Let's wait and see.

 

[Sdot]

Let's wait on that. I am confident that Fran will have a great portal year. Maybe we will build up the defense. Maybe the offense will be good in a different way. Let's wait and see.

Yep absolutely if anyone can do it Fran can.. Just a lot of guys too lose for a 2nd year head coach with a schedule like we got really hope we can get rid of that Notre dame game.

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

I mean if you want to take the meathead coach position be my guest.

Honestly though end of the day the reasoning doesn’t matter. McCord was subordinate to the coach and he suffered a loss as a result of a decision that wasn’t necessary. You’d have a far better argument if QB1 went out injured. Then I get it.

You are so far off here. A coach's responsibility is to prepare his/her team to win games. That's it. There is no fiduciary responsibility to the athlete. "I don't want CJ to get hurt as he's the best QB we have. Kyle, you are better at taking snaps and kneeling down than [insert name of other option]. We need you."

Also, looking at these matters in hindsight is a massive slippery slope filled with what ifs and couldas.

 

[oldpinepoint]

Who did you play for?

I played for Marcellus, the class structures were all screwed up back then. So we played all the large schools. Brutal year

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

Absolutely not. The genie is out of the bottle. Players now have a cash compensation opportunity - through NIL only - which is unfortunately serving as a proxy for wages. Asking a player with high earning potential to burn a redshirt needs to be viewed as asking someone to work unpaid for a year.

University is not paying the athlete's NIL. You said it, the school's/coach's interest and the athlete's interest, are not always aligned. That's ok. It's certainly not negligence or malfeasance.

 

[SmilinBob]

We better hope he gets another year…Salters just committed too Colorado.

What's going to happen is McCord finds out late he is turned down by the NCAA. Fran can't find a QB in the portal and Williams becomes the #1 passer in SU history and goes pro early...I mean applies for the NFL draft.

 

[dasher]

University is not paying the athlete's NIL. You said it, the school's/coach's interest and the athlete's interest, are not always aligned. That's ok. It's certainly not negligence or malfeasance.

They still aren't. The University doesn't want money going to the NIL. They want it going to them.

 

[dasher]

What's going to happen is McCord finds out late he is turned down by the NCAA. Fran can't find a QB in the portal and Williams becomes the #1 passer in SU history and goes pro early...I mean applies for the NFL draft.

That is why, not the Williams being great part, why I keep saying NO is the second best answer and it would be best if we got that No today.

 

[Sudano]

This is actually a very good point. I’m no lawyer, and didn’t stay anywhere near a HIE, but the NCAA could theoretically be sued for damages, maybe even OSU for blowing his redshirt. He lost a year of big time earnings for sure, whether or not the incident happened before the doors of the NIL age swung wide open. This decision could impact a lot more than just Kyle. The argument could be had Kyle been in the NIL Age while at OSU, he would have been able to make the decision to leave before he blew one of those seasons. He had no idea that staying there and buying Day’s BS would cost him a lot of $$$. You know darn well he would have played his cards differently under today’s rules.

I think he really could get the extra season, and a lot of other players might too. Just as the NCAA allowed the COVID players to stay around an extra year or two, they could say players who were enrolled and straddled the pre and post NIL year could get a waiver based on X, Y or Z. It would save the NCAA a lot of potential litigation headaches. You just know there is a player with a lawyer out there who will end up challenging the NCAA. Might as well be Kyle.

I don't think that's how the law works. Of course anyone can sue anyone for anything, but you can't get a financial civil judgement for following rules and procedures reasonably and accurately and then have those procedures change in the future. The whole point of civil liability is what did the person or organization do wrong? What did NCAA or OSU do wrong? He still could be granted an extra year by the NCAA, but civil liability seems off the table.

 

[BigNastyJon]

Alright time for someone to get toga from the park and ride and shut this thread down.

 

[CusefanATL]

The answer is above. Appeal rejected.

CAN WE GET A RULING ON THIS POST PLEASE.