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Message: [QUOTE="anomander, post: 5211979, member: 2766"] Yea Donovan is certainly ahead of him on the all-time list. You can argue Graves, and McPherson because of the magical 1987 team, but those were different era’s so hard to compare stat wise. I think Graves would be special in today’s football. This game will totally take Kyle of the map when all the different sites do their heisman and top 5 QB rankings. People must not go on social media because i’ve seen Kyle as #5 in some peoples heisman rankings and in almost every single top 5 QB ranking this season. The arguments in the comments for insert posters Qb was look at Stanford. That Pitt game will be a stain that hurts his brand for the rest of the year. [/QUOTE]