Meaningful October?

[GoSU96]

In 2015 they had the same 3-1 record. People lost their minds when I pointed out that if they played the rest of the year to the same statistical level they weren’t likely to win another game.

2015 the first part of the year had a lot of defensive scores and up big on turnovers.

This year if the team were to maintain the statistical level they are at they are likely to win 8, 9, 10 games. The defense is for real, there are Sunday players at corner and linebacker, they are playing 8 dlinemen who have all had their moments. On offense the left side of the line has two potential draft picks and the tailback is at a minimum all league and is probably a next level guy.

This team is better than 2019, question is how much better.

All that being said my confidence level is low because of the offensive approach, slow playing it sets up for a bunch of close games and I’m not sure this is a fourth quarter team vs peer opponents. Andre is good, but he’s not a sure thing, I have some doubts about the coaching, and my biggest concern is the inability to convert third downs. All of the above puts limits on the upside. If the defense adds short fields and defensive scores and game changing plays that covercome offensive limitations.

Win today and it sets up some good stuff

 

[baggerbob]

In 2015 they had the same 3-1 record. People lost their minds when I pointed out that if they played the rest of the year to the same statistical level they weren’t likely to win another game.

2015 the first part of the year had a lot of defensive scores and up big on turnovers.

This year if the team were to maintain the statistical level they are at they are likely to win 8, 9, 10 games. The defense is for real, there are Sunday players at corner and linebacker, they are playing 8 dlinemen who have all had their moments. On offense the left side of the line has two potential draft picks and the tailback is at a minimum all league and is probably a next level guy.

This team is better than 2019, question is how much better.

All that being said my confidence level is low because of the offensive approach, slow playing it sets up for a bunch of close games and I’m not sure this is a fourth quarter team vs peer opponents. Andre is good, but he’s not a sure thing, I have some doubts about the coaching, and my biggest concern is the inability to convert third downs. All of the above puts limits on the upside. If the defense adds short fields and defensive scores and game changing plays that covercome offensive limitations.

Win today and it sets up some good stuff

This season could be Dino's last Rodeo.

 

[samspann1]

This season could be Dino's last Rodeo.

Hopefully

 

[pattycuse]

In 2015 they had the same 3-1 record. People lost their minds when I pointed out that if they played the rest of the year to the same statistical level they weren’t likely to win another game.

2015 the first part of the year had a lot of defensive scores and up big on turnovers.

This year if the team were to maintain the statistical level they are at they are likely to win 8, 9, 10 games. The defense is for real, there are Sunday players at corner and linebacker, they are playing 8 dlinemen who have all had their moments. On offense the left side of the line has two potential draft picks and the tailback is at a minimum all league and is probably a next level guy.

This team is better than 2019, question is how much better.

All that being said my confidence level is low because of the offensive approach, slow playing it sets up for a bunch of close games and I’m not sure this is a fourth quarter team vs peer opponents. Andre is good, but he’s not a sure thing, I have some doubts about the coaching, and my biggest concern is the inability to convert third downs. All of the above puts limits on the upside. If the defense adds short fields and defensive scores and game changing plays that covercome offensive limitations.

Win today and it sets up some good stuff

I had to check the timestamp-this is an incredibly prescient post and summarizes almost exactly what manifested today (good and bad) ... I wish you were wrong! Well done.

 

[GoSU96]

I had to check the timestamp-this is an incredibly prescient post and summarizes almost exactly what manifested today (good and bad) ... I wish you were wrong! Well done.

It what the team is.

they did some things in the pass game that are encouraging. performance on third down is awful, if they could get that to mid 40s, with this defense they could crank up the pace

 

[baggerbob]

It what the team is.

they did some things in the pass game that are encouraging. performance on third down is awful, if they could get that to mid 40s, with this defense they could crank up the pace

They will, as Shrader gets more comfortable with the offense and his teammates, this offense will take off.

 

[JRHEETER]

GS could save Dinos career here at Syracuse for now.

If we win our home games in October…..November becomes pretty sweet.

Wont be easy but I dare say we have a chance with GS

 

[djorange1989]

GS could save Dinos career here at Syracuse for now.

If we win our home games in October…..November becomes pretty sweet.

Wont be easy but I dare say we have a chance with GS

We have to at least split the next two. Not easy but we can do it. Wake looks very good but they are beatable and so is 2021 Clemson. Gotta get one of them

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Looking at our October schedule, we’ll be lucky to win 1 game.

It will be tough to find 3 more wins this year.

 

[orangenauburn]

Looking at our October schedule, we’ll be lucky to win 1 game.

It will be tough to find 3 more wins this year.

Maybe VaTech
Maybe BC
Ville? Meh doubtful
Pitt unlikely
Clemson - they'll be coming off a Bye so no
Wake - would be a game changer if it happened but they are rolling
NC State ... Meh doubtful

If they beat Wake, I can see us beating BC and maybe State. If VaTech was home I'd be more confident.

Clemson coming off a Bye sucks for us.

Ville QB will be tough to contain

Pitt. Nope. Best QB in conference

Win yesterday and confident we were bowling. I think we go 5-7 with two losses so far attributed to poor specials and officiating.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

In 2015 they had the same 3-1 record. People lost their minds when I pointed out that if they played the rest of the year to the same statistical level they weren’t likely to win another game.

2015 the first part of the year had a lot of defensive scores and up big on turnovers.

This year if the team were to maintain the statistical level they are at they are likely to win 8, 9, 10 games. The defense is for real, there are Sunday players at corner and linebacker, they are playing 8 dlinemen who have all had their moments. On offense the left side of the line has two potential draft picks and the tailback is at a minimum all league and is probably a next level guy.

This team is better than 2019, question is how much better.

All that being said my confidence level is low because of the offensive approach, slow playing it sets up for a bunch of close games and I’m not sure this is a fourth quarter team vs peer opponents. Andre is good, but he’s not a sure thing, I have some doubts about the coaching, and my biggest concern is the inability to convert third downs. All of the above puts limits on the upside. If the defense adds short fields and defensive scores and game changing plays that covercome offensive limitations.

Win today and it sets up some good stuff

This is the argument I have always made for why white knuckle imposes a low ceiling on our program.

 

[TheCusian]

Looking at our October schedule, we’ll be lucky to win 1 game.

It will be tough to find 3 more wins this year.

I don’t know how anyone can say decisively

 

[GoSU96]

Saturday was a lost opportunity.

this wake game is huge. They are playing at a high level, experience all over the field, balanced offense.

all that said SU is home trending upwards with plenty of achievable upside. They went to the final second on the road against FSU with all the issues, external or self inflicted. Any one of a number of plays goes the other way and they win or go OT while only converting 18% on third down. Only 150yds in the air. Only running 63 plays.

Run left, play action, move the pocket, take shots downfield on 2nd 4 or less, easy throws on first, mix in uptempo in favorable situations, 65% completion, 5 more pass attempts, 40% on third down.

Win the game

regardless of how wake goes they are beating Clemson

 

[baggerbob]

Saturday was a lost opportunity.

this wake game is huge. They are playing at a high level, experience all over the field, balanced offense.

all that said SU is home trending upwards with plenty of achievable upside. They went to the final second on the road against FSU with all the issues, external or self inflicted. Any one of a number of plays goes the other way and they win or go OT while only converting 18% on third down. Only 150yds in the air. Only running 63 plays.

Run left, play action, move the pocket, take shots downfield on 2nd 4 or less, easy throws on first, mix in uptempo in favorable situations, 65% completion, 5 more pass attempts, 40% on third down.

Win the game

regardless of how wake goes they are beating Clemson

Someone already acted like I was crazy for saying we beat Wake Saturday, and Clemson Friday night.

 

[David321]

The 12th man will play a big role in beating Wake. I suspect the Dome will be loud no matter how many people we have there. That being said, we can’t shoot ourselves in the foot though.

 

[qdawgg]

I don’t know how anyone can say decisively

I think this goes without saying.

 

[GoSU96]

Three of the four bottom defenses in the ACC are Louisville, UVA, and FSU.

Guess who wake has played?


Guess who is the #1 defense in the ACC?

SU

The outcome of this game is far from a foregone conclusion

 

[EuclidBred]

Wake is by far the best team we have played all year so it will be very interesting to see how this board re-calibrates one way or another after this weekend.

 

[syrBossHogg]

I'd be fine with 5 wins by the end of the October, the ACC isn't strong this year and so anything can happen on a weekly basis.

No excuses, get to 6 wins

 

[TheCusian]

I'd be fine with 5 wins by the end of the October, the ACC isn't strong this year and so anything can happen on a weekly basis.

No excuses, get to 6 wins

I actually think the ACC is strong but has no great teams. Duke might be the worst and they aren’t horrible

 

[OrangeDW]

So basically this is a sneaky “DeVito should start” post.

Incredible.

 

[anomander]

I'd be fine with 5 wins by the end of the October, the ACC isn't strong this year and so anything can happen on a weekly basis.

No excuses, get to 6 wins

I actually think our division is really good. A lot of teams 20-40 range which on avg is probably better than usual

 

[GoSU96]

So basically this is a sneaky “DeVito should start” post.

Incredible.

Yep, that’s exactly what I’m saying.

yeesh

 

[syrBossHogg]

I actually think our division is really good. A lot of teams 20-40 range which on avg is probably better than usual

I think you could be right, me personally I feel more confident playing teams in that range. I think there's a smaller gap in talent/experience between teams in the 20-40 range and 50-70 range, than teams in the top 10/15 and 20-40 range if that makes sense.