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Message: [QUOTE="OrangeDW, post: 1537178, member: 2458"] Tied with Philly for the worst would be my take off the top of my head. When Afflalo is back and Fisher eventually smartens up and starts Grant, then I'd say it might get to the level of "simply bottom 5" which will at least be an improvement. And at least the Knicks do have Galloway shooting the ball really well off the bench. Their overall backcourt is probably a little better than Philly's especially with Wroten out, but their current starters are not. And I don't think Grant will be a good starting caliber PG at this point. But he brings more to the table than Calderon, and he should improve. I think his ceiling is maybe good backup and serviceable enough starter level(like Jarrett Jack, Darren Collison level). [/QUOTE]