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[QUOTE="SWC75, post: 3076916, member: 289"]
I'm a big "stick with the starter" guy. Anytime both teams have the same goal, one of them is wrong. "let's get into the bullpen has always been the goal of the offense. they know that, other than the closer, (maybe), guys are in the bullpen because they aren't good enough to start and the bullpen is a "box of chocolates" - you never know what you are going to get. I remember Billy Wagner striking out the side against the Yankees on 10 pitches and then coming out with a 4-0 lead the next night to a standing ovation. Same guy. Same mound. Same ball. Same opponent. He couldn't get anybody out, blew the save and we wound up losing the game. You don't take out a guy after 6 innings when he's gotten 14 guys out in a row because the modern book says "go to the bullpen", especially when you've just had the guy bat. Everybody talks about the third time through the line-up but that's not the comparison. the comparison is the starter the third time through the line-up vs. the reliever you'd bring in the 7th inning.

That said, what happened to Lugo could just have happened in the 8th inning as easily as the 7th. Unless Mickey was going to go with Matz for a complete game, keeping him in would have just postponed it. So maybe it didn't matter. the shocking thing was that Lugo, who has pitched so well and well-rested, had absolutely nothing. He was Wagner that next night against the Yankees.

Who can we turn to?
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