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Message: [QUOTE="Chip, post: 4929284, member: 19"] I hate that we were shutout (thanks Simmons for the unncessary hit and the ref for the wrong call on it). And I hate that, at the time, it was the worst bowl loss in ACC history, to a 6-6 terrible defense USF team no less (but thanks FSU for shattering our short visit on the wall of shame). That said, I agree with you, we were in a state of disarray at that point and weren't going to have Shrader. The disarray was a wonderful thing for our future, but a bad thing for having to play a game against a hungry team just a few weeks later. Not at all surprised we lost, just wish it wasn't quite so ugly. Better times lie ahead. [/QUOTE]