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Message: [QUOTE="Timonen, post: 1015933, member: 81"] That feels like a crazy stretch to me. Johnny Dawkins could have been out of a job this year if they didn't upset two teams in the tourney. Stanford's recent basketball tradition is better than ND's and they're a step behind where they want to be. ND is WAY ahead of where they were when Brey came. Florida, Oklahoma and Ohio State are all examples of how football-first places can excel. That's the upside for a PSU or Bama, should they choose to put their energies there...and they have TONS of room to grow I think ND's ceiling of typically 20th-40th in the country is respectable. Making a leap to try and edge upward is super risky and will most likely backfire. [/QUOTE]