Mike Bristol?

[GoSU96]

The guy with the hs radio show is one of two sources of hope?

Oy vey.

 

[Cuse181]

Another collective can always be started. Get out there and start marketing!

 

[Jake]

Another collective can always be started. Get out there and start marketing!

I believe there is another. I may be mistaken.

 

[cto]

Bear with me, it gets a bit complicated. The Jesse Edwards offer was not the work of the 315 Collective (which is a 501c(3) non-profit). Because of the complications of a 501c(3) non-profit working with organizations outside the U.S., Mike put together an ad hoc group of donors (not a 501c(3)) to address the Jesse Edwards challenge of working with groups in the Netherlands. Mike's group raised the amount of money that Jesse's father had mentioned. However, other schools got involved (apparently before Jesse was even in the portal), and West Virginia essentially doubled the offer from the Syracuse group. On such short notice, the "Bristol group" could not match the West Virginia offer. End of story.

 

[JRHEETER]

Bear with me, it gets a bit complicated. The Jesse Edwards offer was not the work of the 315 Collective (which is a 501c(3) non-profit). Because of the complication of a 501c(3) non-profit working with organizations outside the U.S., Mike put together an ad hoc group of donors (not a 501c(3)) to address the Jesse Edwards challenge by working with groups in the Netherlands. Mike's group raised the amount of money that Jesse's father had mentioned. However, other schools got involved (apparently before Jesse was even in the portal), and West Virginia eventually doubled the offer from the Syracuse group. On such short notice, the "Bristol group" could not match the West Virginia offer. End of story.

Very true all of this

Minus Bristol does also help run 315

 

[Symphony Steve]

File this under "Stuff I Wish I Didn't Know".

Pretty depressing when you think about it.

 

[longtimefan]

Bear with me, it gets a bit complicated. The Jesse Edwards offer was not the work of the 315 Collective (which is a 501c(3) non-profit). Because of the complications of a 501c(3) non-profit working with organizations outside the U.S., Mike put together a group of donors (not a 501c(3)) to address the Jesse Edwards challenge by working with groups in the Netherlands. Mike's group raised the amount of money that Jesse's father had mentioned. However, other schools got involved (apparently before Jesse was even in the portal), and West Virginia essentially doubled the offer from the Syracuse group. On such short notice, the "Bristol group" could not match the West Virginia offer. End of story.

Connecting the dots--

It certainly appears that the WVU offer was likely the reason Edwards entered the portal in the first place.

 

[orange79]

Bear with me, it gets a bit complicated. The Jesse Edwards offer was not the work of the 315 Collective (which is a 501c(3) non-profit). Because of the complications of a 501c(3) non-profit working with organizations outside the U.S., Mike put together a group of donors (not a 501c(3)) to address the Jesse Edwards challenge by working with groups in the Netherlands. Mike's group raised the amount of money that Jesse's father had mentioned. However, other schools got involved (apparently before Jesse was even in the portal), and West Virginia essentially doubled the offer from the Syracuse group. On such short notice, the "Bristol group" could not match the West Virginia offer. End of story.

Well, that's going to shoot down a lot of the bitching and moaning a lot of posters have been doing around here.

Then again, they'll probably just keep going anyway.

 

[cto]

Well, that's going to shoot down a lot of the bitching and moaning a lot of posters have been doing around here.

Then again, they'll probably just keep going anyway.

I have hesitated to post this info ever since the Jesse story broke. And maybe I should not post it now. But I was getting fed up with all the misinformation presented as "fact" around here.

 

[longtimefan]

I have hesitated to post this info ever since the Jesse story broke. And maybe I should not post it now. But I was getting fed up with all the misinformation presented as "fact" around here.

Well, it is the Age of Alternative Facts (as Pat Moynihan rolls over in his grave).

 

[007]

I have hesitated to post this info ever since the Jesse story broke. And maybe I should not post it now. But I was getting fed up with all the misinformation presented as "fact" around here.

Opinions stated with 95% certainty based on less than 5% knowledge run rampant here. And the majority of that club probably thinks you are just guessing.

 

[kingtidge]

Bear with me, it gets a bit complicated. The Jesse Edwards offer was the work of the 315 Collective (which is a 501c(3) non-profit). Because of the complications of a 501c(3) non-profit working with organizations outside the U.S., Mike put together an ad hoc group of donors (not a 501c(3)) to address the Jesse Edwards challenge of working with groups in the Netherlands. Mike's group raised the amount of money that Jesse's father had mentioned. However, other schools got involved (apparently before Jesse was even in the portal), and West Virginia essentially doubled the offer from the Syracuse group. On such short notice, the "Bristol group" could not match the West Virginia offer. End of story.

Ok, so to be clear, you are also insinuating what Bristol has said publicly about this is a lie, yes??

To be clear, this is what he said as part of his public statement last week:

“We were not set up in that way. We don’t have a collective that works for an international athlete. So, we were kind of dead in the water,” said Bristol, whose 315 Foundation coordinates deals primarily for SU basketball players.​

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“Once we could not find a way to do it and/or the timing of it, they decided they’re going to put his name in the portal and that was that.”​

So the question is, who is telling the truth?

I don't understand why this is some sort of smoke and mirrors issue of competing narratives of truth.

Also, what you said sounds logical, save for Bristol's public statement to the contrary... And oddly, no one thus far is willing to say "yeah, he's lying."

 

[FloridaCuse]

Bear with me, it gets a bit complicated. The Jesse Edwards offer was not the work ofthe 315 Collective (which is a 501c(3) non-profit). Because of the complications of a 501c(3) non-profit working with organizations outside the U.S., Mike put together an ad hoc group of donors (not a 501c(3)) to address the Jesse Edwards challenge of working with groups in the Netherlands. Mike's group raised the amount of money that Jesse's father had mentioned. However, other schools got involved (apparently before Jesse was even in the portal), and West Virginia essentially doubled the offer from the Syracuse group. On such short notice, the "Bristol group" could not match the West Virginia offer. End of story.

So if this is true does it not suggest that Jesse's dad went back on his word?

 

[Orangezoo]

Ok, so to be clear, you are also insinuating what Bristol has said publicly about this is a lie, yes??

To be clear, this is what he said as part of his public statement last week:

“We were not set up in that way. We don’t have a collective that works for an international athlete. So, we were kind of dead in the water,” said Bristol, whose 315 Foundation coordinates deals primarily for SU basketball players.​

​

“Once we could not find a way to do it and/or the timing of it, they decided they’re going to put his name in the portal and that was that.”​

So the question is, who is telling the truth?

I don't understand why this is some sort of smoke and mirrors issue of competing narratives of truth.

Also, what you said sounds logical, save for Bristol's public statement to the contrary... And oddly, no one thus far is willing to say "yeah, he's lying."

Read it a couple times. This is basically exactly what cto is saying but not worded all that well via the interview.

 

[cto]

Ok, so to be clear, you are also insinuating what Bristol has said publicly about this is a lie, yes??

To be clear, this is what he said as part of his public statement last week:

“We were not set up in that way. We don’t have a collective that works for an international athlete. So, we were kind of dead in the water,” said Bristol, whose 315 Foundation coordinates deals primarily for SU basketball players.​

​

“Once we could not find a way to do it and/or the timing of it, they decided they’re going to put his name in the portal and that was that.”​

So the question is, who is telling the truth?

I don't understand why this is some sort of smoke and mirrors issue of competing narratives of truth.

Also, what you said sounds logical, save for Bristol's public statement to the contrary... And oddly, no one thus far is willing to say "yeah, he's lying."

I don't think the two narratives are mutually exclusive. I think Mike's statement (as reported) sort of shorthands the timeline ... in that it does not include the ad hoc group that was formed outside of the collective. It was the ad hoc group that raised the money. His key phrase was "and/or the timing of it."

 

[Cuse181]

I don't think the two narratives are mutually exclusive. I think Mike's statement sort of shorthands the timeline ... in that it does not include the ad hoc group that was formed outside of the collective. It was the ad hoc group that raised the money. His key phrase was "and/or the timing of it."

The Syracuse.com article that quotes Mike said they raised the money so it’s pretty clear the quotes are either being misunderstood or the they were put together in a way that (like you said) condenses the timeline.

 

[ar inj]

Intentionally or not reporters get the facts wrong all the time about all sorts of stories. I am not saying you cannot believe anything you read but you need to take things w/ a grain of salt and sometimes more than one

 

[kingtidge]

Intentionally or not reporters get the facts wrong all the time about all sorts of stories. I am not saying you cannot believe anything you read but you need to take things w/ a grain of salt and sometimes more than one

I get that, but a quote from a direct source is just that... It's not some sort of tea leaves reading opinion piece.

 

[cto]

I get that, but a quote from a direct source is just that... It's not some sort of tea leaves reading opinion piece.

I am not questioning any reporter here. But I must tell you that reporters, in general, decide which quotes ... or which part of a quote... to use in a story. A direct quote may be accurate, but it doesn't necessarily mean (frequently for reasons of space or because of editing) that it is the entire story. In my career, I've been on both sides of the reporter/source relationship. I have a pretty good perspective as to how it works.