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[QUOTE="sholokov2, post: 2615161, member: 6629"] Ohmi- I have no insight, but I can dredge up many many examples of older coaches who have been successful for many years into their dotage and ended up bitter old men who seem gobsmacked by young men who would not follow their militaristic regimens and lost lots of games. Woody Hayes is my favorite. He grabbed his player by the mask at the end of a particularly galling loss and smacked him upside the head. He was gone the next year. Casey Stengel asked in his inchoate senility, " can anybody here play this game", a reference to his NY Mets. I watched Messere coach for years. Marveled at his brilliance. But coaches have a shelf life like all authoritarians. Particularly coaches who expect a lot from their players. Teams which lose a few games break down and wonder about investing in a set rules that seem tolerable when the team wins but not so much during losing seasons. I respect the idea that our culture has changed over the years. but I have a feeling that Messere's retirement was a function of the natural order. [/QUOTE]
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