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Message: [QUOTE="OrangeFoo, post: 2487177, member: 210"] 100% agree with this... I feel like the term "W.T." loss was created around this time because of how often we lost to teams we had no business losing to. For some reason when we had McNabb, Coach P could never put together a D that could stop any of the big boys. I honestly think McNabb was a bandaid on the decline of SU football... right after he left our roster was exposed for the lack of talent that it had and to prove it we began a series of national TV massacres culminating in Coach P's last season when we opened up against Purdue with a freshman named Joe Fields at QB who would end up as a safety by the time his career was over. I remember on multiple occasion Herbstreit openly laughing at us during the game. I still cringe every time we have a national TV game because I am scarred from the Coach P era. Sure Vick would have been a bandaid for another couple of years but I think Coach P's ability to recruit and assemble talent that could compete for titles was gone... it didn't help that we were stating to lost NJ to Rutgers by then. The other problem is that spread offenses started to become more popular in college and the big boys started chasing the same talent we used to rely on. In todays world there is no way we would have ever gotten McNabb... he would be at OSU. In hindsight I don't think there was anything we could have done to stop the collapse... the facilities arms race and the hyper inflation of coaching salaries had begun and we were sitting on the sidelines with facilities that were worse than those of most high school programs in one of the most infertile recruiting grounds in the country. Anyone else amused you can't actually type the first letters of What The FCUK or What The ? [/QUOTE]

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