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Message: [QUOTE="NJCuse97, post: 5181851, member: 5058"] Look at the post I was responding to. [USER=8705]Jcuse_44[/USER] said the students "don't deserve the space" they were given in the Dome (upper tier in the end zone mind you) in addition to several other similar comments. I take that as hate. I am not remotely suggesting that the full amount of their tuition/room/board goes to football, or even the athletic department, but I think enough to say they "deserve the space". A portion of that money does go to budgets (including the AD) and endowment, where special projects such as the new roof, seats, an IPF, and the scholarships that go to 85 (now limitless) players come from (and the grass on the quad). It means more BECAUSE we're not a state school supported by the tax dollars of all state constituents. Others act like that quad should be given to those diehards every Friday/Saturday for parties but don't seem to accept that those paying for that grass want to have the places to study and then go to parties too (Crouse-Hinds Hall is an odd choice as it's pretty much an administrative office building for the Chancellor, so lets say the academic buildings that surround the quad like Link, Bowne, Shaffer, Carnegie Library). I think you are wrong about the program's existence. It absolutely would exist and did exist for some 75 years before diehard locals and 135 before NIL contingent were remote factors in what it is today. Without it, we would probably have a program like Cornell, or Colgate, or the Ivy League Schools. Heck I could name any number of Northeast programs that continue to exist without those things you mention, including some of our peer schools and league brethren (BC, Wake, Duke, to name a few) and I have seen a lot of people here pine for the days when it wasn't about NIL. That said, TV money makes the football world go 'round, not local fans. SUNY Binghamton is actually another bad example as it IS a state school propped up by tax payer money that [I]you[/I] used as an example of what SU isn't. As for my megalopolis comment, I was referring to the student base (re-read if you must). That base comes mostly from the major population centers of the Northeast - NYC/NJ/eastern PA, Boston, DMV (the full breadth of which is the megalopolis I was referring to). [URL unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_megalopolis[/URL] [/QUOTE]

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