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Message: [QUOTE="Pyle, post: 5182474, member: 137"] Well it's not. Hate is what is happening in Israel/Iran/Lebanon. Somebody mentioned the students might have too big of a footprint in the dome and you went to extremes. AS for the other comment, I chose Crouse0-Hinds because it IS NOT an academic building and is administrative. Who do you think pays all those salaries? A fraction of their tuition goes to sports. Couple grand a year I think. The rest of the money comes from ticket sales, merch sales, concessions, parking, and massive ESPN TV deals that art students don't have a damn thing to do with. And stop with the straw man arguments so your replies look longer. I never said the quad should be given up for two days a week for parties. Where the heck do you get that? Would the program exiost? Yeah, you misunderstood the part about SUNY, yes it is a state schools but it's not like Michigan State or Penn State. We don't have 1 really big campus and a few small ones. We have 4 university centers however SUNY Binghamton is still a Div1 school and the only people who go to games are students, a few locals, and a few alum. 45k? Don't think so. That's what you're advocating for by saying this program isn't propped up by the local fan base. It is. We WOULD be Colgate or Cornell without it. You want that fine but we don't and neither does the university or they wouldn't have invested as much as they did. As for the megapolis comment. Either you're proving that our alumni base has too many options as adults to come back for games, in which case it's the locals who support the program, or you were trying to say the student have too many options now to stay at a game which is BS because we are 3 hours away from your megapolis. The real reason they moved the students is about money, nothing else. They used to sit in prime real estate. Now they sit in the cheapest seats in the dome. The university wanted to get the extra cash from the donations required to sit in their old section. That's it. It's about money, not your students, despite what the administration is telling you. Our program has been about money for the last 25 years, as have all of them since college football exploded with massive TV deals. Saying we existed before is a really bad argument. The landscape has completely changed, and if you want to keep a P5 program at Syracuse, you need ALOT of local support. Without it we become another UCONN oir UMASS. [/QUOTE]

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