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Message: [QUOTE="NJCuse97, post: 5183561, member: 5058"] I like your version of the "my take" and I was only responding to another post/poster on the thread. I understand the frustration with the student participation, but it has almost always been this way (or when the students DO get into it, they get told to sit down and be quiet. I have literally experienced this when I was a student multiple times, but that's for another thread). In post #34 you said to me (mind you to that point I had not posted anything in response to you) you said "[I]Who said they hate the students? Straw-man[/I]". In response, I said in post #36 "[I]Look at the post I was responding to. [USER=8705]Jcuse_44[/USER] said the students "don't deserve the space" they were given in the Dome (upper tier in the end zone mind you) in addition to several other similar comments. I take that as hate.[/I]" That's about as immediate and direct as I can be. It plainly answers your question. As for the term "hate", I guess I will be more careful with my use of the term here since it seems to trigger some in the way that accusing the students of be undeserving of seats triggers me. Perhaps I should just come up with synonyms for hate and use them instead to disguise my meaning. You use the term disdain. Per Webster's, they are synonyms. "Disdain. as in contempt. open dislike for someone or something considered unworthy of one's concern or respect showing undisguised disdain for the other employees. [B]contempt[/B]. [B]hatred[/B]." [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/disdain#:~:text=Definition%20of%20disdain,hatred[/URL] Be more careful with you words. As for money ($300 to use your back yard) I would get that for what, 6 weekends? I think that's one of the least expensive season tickets in the country. I wonder if they'd be that cheap if the tuition wasn't covering $40 million of the AD budget according to your post #40 "[I]Syracuse University students paid a $2,340 fee each year to fund the school's sports teams. This fee was not for using the gym or funding student clubs and activities.[/I]" (2,340 x 22,000 = $51,480,000 per year to the AD from students). I brought up Archbold because the program being elevated to a higher status level was entirely due to donations of a single oil tycoon in 1908. Not tuition, and not local support. I have no hate, or in your words disdain for the local fanbase. I support the school and anyone who does the same. The comment I reacted to and others that since followed, seem to ignore the huge contribution made by one facet of that, the students. I called it out for the same disdain you are accusing me of because I defended them. As for alumni support, you don't get what we have, including Doug Marrone, JAB and now Red, or Roy Simmons, Sr and Jr, John Desko, and now Gary Gait and Kayla Treanor as coaches without it. You don't get a nearly $2 billion endowment without it. You don't get all those buildings with the names on them (including Melo, Einsley, Lally, Manley, Lampe to name a few) without it. I am certain of it as I have had opportunity to meet with some of those incredibly generous alumni. It isn't just about them attending the games. [/QUOTE]

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