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Message: [QUOTE="OttoMets, post: 2470604, member: 716"] It's dishonest wordplay (not addressing you or anyone here, just expressing disappointment in the "words have meanings" vein). By definition, one is a "survivor" if one had an experience which put that person in a reasonable likelihood of not surviving. While what happened to those gymnasts was deplorable, their lives weren't at risk. Calling them "survivors" is inaccurate and, in my opinion, diminishes people who've beat cancer, soldiers who've been shot, that kind of thing. (And the whole dishonest charade is founded on a weird premise - "victim" shouldn't be considered pejorative in any way. There's no shame in being a victim.) It's disappointing that the judge chose such language; I thought that was a really unprofessional performance from the bench. Given the emotion surrounding the matter, I don't think anyone will say anything, but her conduct was beneath the dignity of the court. [/QUOTE]