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Message: [QUOTE="SWC75, post: 1782654, member: 289"] I listed things Ruth and Ali had in common and things that were different. I didn't say "an affinity for children" had to do with athletic ability. I think it's clear that they were the most prominent athletes of the 20th century in America and that Ali was the more prominent to the world. I would agree that Ruth had more of an effect on his own sport but other, less prominent athletes had a big impact on how their sport was played, as well. And Ali has had plenty of imitators. I agree that Ali's treatment of his opponents is a downside but it doesn't make him less prominent. Finally, I wouldn't attribute his stands to others. He had to decide to make them, himself, regardless of the influence of other people.. [/QUOTE]