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Message: [QUOTE="SoBristol, post: 1853016, member: 485"] Great post, SWC. And not to pick nits, but there was a reason Babers' first year at BGSU saw a decline on the defensive side but held It's own on offense. BGSU lost the majority of defensive starters from the Clawson defense, but returned its best players on offense. His defense was simply too young in 2014 to hold its own. In 2015, his young defense had grown up a year ( and had a better DC). The SU defense in 2015 had a similar situation to BGSU's defense - too many underclass an and too few returning starters. So, now, Babers has the benefit of a full set of returning skill players, and a lot of returning starters on the defense as well. Not a bad situation at all. [/QUOTE]