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Message: [QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 2326898, member: 2585"] There is gray area here... Dino had 1 TO, 4:39 to go. NC State needs one 1st down to be able to take a knee. You’ll want to use your TO during their possession, if you get the stops. If you get a 3 and out, they punt and we’re 70-80 yards no TO, 2:30 left. What happened: Onsides kick, 5% chance you get the ball on their side of the field with 1 TO and 4:39 on the clock. They get the ball, we stop them and force a 4th down and 1. (We stop them and get the ball on our own 38.. still need to go 62 yds with 2:30 left, no TO). They did convert, game over. I think I would have kicked - but he did get two chances at the ball, both with better position with more time or similar time left. [/QUOTE]