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Message: [QUOTE="tipphill, post: 19594"] being a traditionalist,and "old school" i want west virginia and penn state in acc.they belong with us and us with them. as far as i am concerned screw notre dame---i know that is heresy, but screw em as they screw everyone else. i'd like to see the return of normalcy to the east and if the acc could get them it would be as close as we could get-----yea, its a pipe dream. also read trangesees comments, what bull... .he states that the footbal could not win enough games----well there was never any emphasis on football by big east officials, dating back to psu not being admitted which led to this whole big east mess. we did what we needed to do to survive. [/QUOTE]