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Message: [QUOTE="billsin01, post: 2170176, member: 837"] Yeah, I can see that too. Ultimately winning is what brings out the fans so in the end, that's probably the way to go. But I'm fine with vanilla -- just think the Cuse is a bit unique in that you don't have a built-in rabid fanbase. I just feel like trying to embrace as much publicity as you can get and trying to draw as much interest as often as possible from this community would be ideal. Perhaps it's just not possible. [/QUOTE]