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Message: [QUOTE="SWC75, post: 4370738, member: 289"] It's on the "condensed" game at 11:36, (with two slow motion replays) and the Pena fumble on the kick-off is at 14:40, (ditto): [MEDIA=youtube]vKnqmeBQur8[/MEDIA] I looked for the NCAA rule on forward progress but could not find a description of what forward progress is when a quarterback drops back and never moves forward: [URL unfurl="true"]https://cfoaref.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/FR21-Rule-Book.pdf[/URL] Here is the targeting rule: "The [URL='https://www.secsports.com/article/27981840/what-targeting']2019 NCAA Rule Book[/URL] defines targeting as when a player [I]"takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or legal block or playing the ball." [/I]The NCAA targeting rule bans any forcible contact leading with the crown of the helmet or to the head or neck area of a defenseless player." [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/heres-guide-targeting-college-football-and-nfl#:~:text=The%202019%20NCAA%20Rule%20Book%20defines%20targeting%20as,head%20or%20neck%20area%20of%20a%20defenseless%20player.[/URL] Here's what i saw on the would-be safety: Armstrong grabs the snap at the 5 and retreated to the 3. He positions himself for a throw but here comes Caleb, who makes first contact at the 2. Armstrong stays on his feet and tries to escape, initially by going backwards from the 3 to the 2, then to his left and then to his right while in the end zone, where he is spun down by Caleb. I'd call it a safety. Pena got turned around and was then hit in the back by the Virginia player, who hit him more with his should than his head, which was to the side. No targeting, although it was close and might have looked like it from a different angle. [/QUOTE]

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