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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4807921, member: 5685"] Mostly agree with what he tried to do. It created a very nice strong core. But he failed to bring in any real playmakers. Also I think his QB and WR recruiting were pretty weak. Nassib was already there. I doubt we even see Hunt if Marrone had stayed. Lemon and Sales were GRob recruits. As was Chandler Jones. I think the metrics was a good idea but it also would have kept someone like Estime away from here. You can't have a bunch of undersized kids like Shafer tried to do, but you can't also ignore good players at a school like SU. That is where we can find under recruited guys. [/QUOTE]