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Message: [QUOTE="kcsu, post: 5269037, member: 528"] None of know at this point if Red is a good coach or not. Last year he took a group of difficult kids and got us to 20 wins. But is it because of good coaching or talent. The fact is that last year's team was significantly better more talented than this year's team. It's actually not even close. Nobody on this year's team is on the same planet as Judah. Nobody on this year's team plays as good a D and hustles as Brown did. And we don't have anyone close to Copeland from a pure talent standpoint. Take last years starting 5 and play them against this year's starting 5 ten times and this year's team wouldn't come within 10 points in any of the games. We are a young team lacking in talent and depth. Our roster is a complete miss. Red has to go with the kids who are going to return. If after the first 3 ACC games, we have not pulled a miracle Red has to focus on next year. His job depends on it. [/QUOTE]