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Message: [QUOTE="Van111, post: 485385, member: 1851"] Don't get me wrong, DM was great for the program, and he earned his spot in the NFL. We are a long way off from thinking we could have a Jim B or Sabin type Coach. Maybe those days are way in the past. Maybe we won't see most coaches last for much more than 4 years, but at least lets always leave a team in a better place. Building our tradition and name is important, so on that aspect, I have to say our AD is doing that for the most part. Sure would like Jim Brown back involved in some kind of way. Now that is tradition, along with Floyd. Either way, I am very cautiously optimistic that the more I read and hear about Shafer, we may be in good shape moving forward. [/QUOTE]