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Message: [QUOTE="Cuseball, post: 2036725, member: 1603"] (1) [B]Our recruiting is falling apart, the Staff doesn’t know what they are doing, we are getting outworked on the recruiting trail:[/B] [LIST] [*]Actually our recruiting is very consistent with where it’s always been. Based on looking at the 247 Recruiting team rankings over the past 9 years: Every couple years we get a top 10 class, sometimes a top 20, and mostly a top 40. [*]Looking at our last 9 recruiting classes (not counting this year as its not complete) [LIST] [*]we have 3 top 10 classes (in 2015, 2013, 2010) [*]2 top 20 (in 2016 and 2011) [*]3 top 40 (2014, 2012 and 2008) [*]1 in the high 100’s. (2009) [*]Our last 2 classes have been ranked #18 and #8. Our #18 ranking last year does not include 5th year transfers and transfers. [*]No matter how you cut it this does not point to evidence of a drop off [/LIST] [/LIST] [B]We are missing all our top targets which mean’s we are lazy, Jimmy is sleeping all the time, GMAC can’t do it etc.[/B] [LIST] [*]Well history points towards us never getting top 10 kids and this year was no different. We targeted a lot more highly rated players than normal and struck out (Bamba, Duval, Richards, Diallo). If we didn’t try we would be criticized for not even attempting. These kids are tough to land and we don’t ever do it. [*]In the past 10 recruiting classes (2008-17) we have gotten: [LIST] [*]zero top 10 players [*]1 top 20 player (Fab in #14 in 2010) [*]5 top 21-30 players (McCullough #21 in 2014, Dion #21 in 2010, Ennis #23 in 2013, Christmas #22 in 2011, Carter-Williams #26 in 2011,) [*]6 top 31-50 players (Malachi #32 in 2015, Battle #37 in 2016 Kaleb #48 in 2014, Robey #40 in 2013, Grant #48 in 2012, Mookie #43 in 2008) [*]8 top 51-100 players [*]8 100+ players [/LIST] [*]Our class this year is ranked #66 and will likely move into the 30’s if w eland Ayala and Duarte. Again not counting what we come up with in the 5th year market. [*]Again, not sure we are seeing a downward trend which shows we are not getting the kids we typically get. [/LIST] [B]We can’t develop players properly because of some example pointing towards Rakeem Christmas taking 4 years[/B] [LIST] [*]Since the 2010 recruiting class through 2015 we have recruited 20 high school players. Note: I am excluding 2016 because we don’t know what the current frosh will do NBA wise. [LIST] [*]7 of these 20 players are currently earning or earned an NBA paycheck (Malachi, McCullough, Ennis, Grant, Carter-Williams, Dion, Fab Melo). [*]That number will become 8 soon (hopefully not next year) when Lydon goes pro. [*]8 out of 20 is a 40% NBA success rate on high school recruits is unbelievably high. [*]In this time we have also gone 2 for 2 with transfers earning NBA checks (Michael G and Wes Johnson). [/LIST] [*]Depends what your definition of developing is but if the goal of all these guys is the NBA it’s worked out amazingly well. [/LIST] [B]Our program is in dire straits, we are at a critical juncture, everyone should jump off a cliff and panic as if we were stuck in the American Athletic conference and playing UCF in rivalry games[/B] [LIST] [*]Since 2010 (which represents a pretty fair recent sample) we have been hugely successful. Close to the top 5 in terms of success. [LIST] [*]We are tied for 4th in tournament appearances with 6 out of 7 [*]Tied for 4th in tournament wins with 15. Tied with UNC, Louisville, Michigan State. Kentucky has 23, Duke has 19 and Kansas has 16. [*]Tied for 6th in overall wins and winning percentage [*]Tied for 4th in Sweet Sixteen’s with 4 [*]Tied for 3rd with Final Eights with 3 [*]Tied for 2nd in Final Fours with 2 [/LIST] [/LIST] Please commence with critiquing the time frame used, the recruiting service used and everything else. Others have said already that you can not underestimate the impact of the sanctions on the team. We’ll be fine and trends point towards next year resulting in a top 20 recruiting class with more future NBA players. RELAX! [/QUOTE]

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