Nassib is good QB

[SmilinBob]

I want Lemon to be more consistent and clutch. Maybe it's me but he seems to be the king of garbage time stats.

 

[OrangePA]

I agree but it seems like we have a 5-7 out of 10 qb thing going here and out of the 7 we'll get an athletic guy who can't pass that well or a guy that has a strong arm but can't make soft throws or he can't move that well. The grass being greener doesn't always work...we need a good qb that doesn't give other teams chances to win and can make a play with his arm or feet. I'm sorry OPA but just being an athletic qb isn't good enough for me, I'm sick of settling.

Yes, that is what I had in mind.

A QB who can make plays with both his arm and his feet.

And yes, we have been looking for that guy since 1999.

 

[SmilinBob]

That's the funny thing about Nassib, I thought he was more athletic than he is but he just seems to move his feet like his shoes are tied together.

 

[dollarbill44]

His biggest problem Saturday was not being able to hold onto the ball. That 21 yard loss on an inexcusable fumble cost us points.

Overall, he is a serviceable college QB. He can make 80% of the throws required of him and he is very good on deep slant routes, but the 20% of throws that he struggles with are the ones that win games in college - deep balls and short end-zone throws requiring touch.

 

[SmilinBob]

The wr's had 3 or so nice catches but then had 3 or so drops as well...you can not do that vs a good team and get away with it. You have to make the plays and this team just reminds me of a baseball team that makes 3 errors that leads to 3 unearned runs and is down 5-1 leave 12 guys on base and then when the game is out of reach they then hit a 3 run homer in the 8th to lose 5-4 and go 1-2-3 in the 9th.

This last game in theory should be the best defense they play from here on. UConns could be as good but their offense is brutal so it should mean more touches for the offense. I read that Marrone said Nova is told to avoid taking sacks at all cost so why doesn't Nassib a 5th year senior do the same?

 

[MaxwellCuse]

His biggest problem Saturday was not being able to hold onto the ball. That 21 yard loss on an inexcusable fumble cost us points.

Overall, he is a serviceable college QB. He can make 80% of the throws required of him and he is very good on deep slant routes, but the 20% of throws that he struggles with are the ones that win games in college - deep balls and short end-zone throws requiring touch.

I'm not a big fan of quarterback-by-committee, but considering Ryan's lack of touch and poor accuracy on the deep ball, maybe this team would have been better served by developing a situational QB. On the other hand, do we even have a guy with a good feel for the ball in the Red zone? How about a reliable, accurate long ball?

I suspect we just haven't recruited better than Nassib to this point and that is part of my increasing frustration with HCDM.

 

[dollarbill44]

I'm not a big fan of quarterback-by-committee, but considering Ryan's lack of touch and poor accuracy on the deep ball, maybe this team would have been better served by developing a situational QB. On the other hand, do we even have a guy with a good feel for the ball in the Red zone? How about a reliable, accurate long ball?

I suspect we just haven't recruited better than Nassib to this point and that is part of my increasing frustration with HCDM.

I have no clue if we have anyone else with a feel for the ball in the red zone because we haven't seen any other QB in the last 3 seasons. Even when McNabb was here, the backups got some reps because we blew people out. I wouldn't mind seeing Loeb get a start this Friday. He can't do any worse than losing, right? At some point, you have to try something to get this thing untracked.

 

[billsin01]

A more athletic QB would make a difference in this team.

True. Had DM recruited and developed a good dual-threat QB we'd be a lot better. Of course when you've been looking for that guy since '99, as you point out, it kind of renders that point meaningless.


And, of course, it's probably worth pointing out that a good offensive line and/or special teams described any way other than putrid would also have us much happier with our record these days.

 

[SmilinBob]

True. Had DM recruited and developed a good dual-threat QB we'd be a lot better. Of course when you've been looking for that guy since '99, as you point out, it kind of renders that point meaningless.


And, of course, it's probably worth pointing out that a good offensive line and/or special teams described any way other than putrid would also have us much happier with our record these days.

Why do you think we need an athletic guy?

 

[billsin01]

Overall, he is a serviceable college QB. He can make 80% of the throws required of him and he is very good on deep slant routes, but the 20% of throws that he struggles with are the ones that win games in college - deep balls and short end-zone throws requiring touch.

I generally agree with this to a large extent, but I think it's worth pointing out that there is another way to finish off drives -- a good OL and a strong running game. I'm not saying I dislike the move to this offense or that I question why Nassib is throwing the ball, per se, but finishing drives inside the 5 or 10 is much easier when you trust your OL. We don't, for understandable reasons.

 

[Orangello]

I generally agree with this to a large extent, but I think it's worth pointing out that there is another way to finish off drives -- a good OL and a strong running game. I'm not saying I dislike the move to this offense or that I question why Nassib is throwing the ball, per se, but finishing drives inside the 5 or 10 is much easier when you trust your OL. We don't, for understandable reasons.

or stated another way, tailor your offense to your QB's strengths, not his weaknesses. They seemed to have good success with Smith running north south on Sat. yet went away from this. Time to give up the home run ball. The QB can't make those throws, he panics in the longer time necessary to make those throws when the pocket starts breaking down and ends up turning the ball over.