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Message: [QUOTE="Melancer46, post: 2286290, member: 1674"] Yeah, I'd definitely say Lowry is better than Kyrie right now. Obviously long-term you prefer Kyrie since Lowry is pretty old already though. And also, obviously we're all splitting hairs here. Kyrie is a really great talent. I know a lot of the advanced stat guys don't believe he's a star at all, but I think the vast majority of us would agree that he is. Even if he's not at Wall/Lowry's level right now, he's still really freaking good. The guys that are arguably the same tier or better than Kyrie in the East are: LeBron (duh) Giannis (duh) John Wall Kyle Lowry Healthy Isaiah Gordon Hayward? Demar Derozen? (I would personally say no to this one, but some people like him a lot more than I do) [/QUOTE]