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Message: [QUOTE="Knicks411, post: 2566173, member: 767"] I get it, the shooting is an issue. Even last night, they were trying to keep him away from the ball late in the game then Cle was gonna foul. Playoffs will be interesting though. But I don't know, he's averaging 16-8-8 and grades out as a good, if not better, defender, as far as I know. There are a lot of great players in the league, maybe he's not top 15 yet, but he's gotta be knocking on the door. UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Frustrating. Knicks are 2 ahead (or behind, if you will) the Nets, and 1 from the Bulls. If the Knicks can lose out, which shouldn't be a problem, they're going to end up tied with at least one of them, the Bulls and the Nets play each other twice. [/QUOTE]