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[QUOTE="Melancer46, post: 2726188, member: 1674"]
I didn't say I'd rank Butler ahead of Kyrie, though I do think it's a legitimate discussion.

We also talking about the top 10 guys long-term though, so the age really isn't a factor in these rankings at all. Health, on the other hand, is, and it's definitely a knock against Butler. But it's also a knock against Wall and Kyrie.

You don't have to be the #1 scoring option to be the #1 player on your team, but if we're going based off of that, Butler is a far better #1 option than John Wall at this point. Wall simply is not a good scorer right now (though this is really just a result of his shot distribution; he's a good finisher and shows signs of being a capable 3 point shooter, but he takes wayyyy too many mid-range jumpers and he's flat out terrible at them). Butler is a better finisher and light-years better mid-range shooter and his 3 point shot is roughly on par with Wall. He also draws fouls at a significantly higher rate. Butler is legitimately in the 10-15ish range if we're purely talking about scoring ability and he couples that with being a very good and versatile defender as well.
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