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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 2773662, member: 652"] Thibs’ fate should be tied to the development of KAT, Wiggins. The problem is he traded a top 7 pick for Butler. I honestly was never really in love with Butler as I think his D was strength early on but as his offense developed his D wasn’t the same all-NBA D level. Thibs should be realizing first he isn’t beating GS this year so it’s pointless to make trade now returns. Second, with LeBron in LA and Denver pretty much playoff locks the West is going to lose atleast 2 playoff teams from last year and he was the 8 seed last year. Minnesota and San Antonio are the clear favorites IMO to fall out maybe OKC, could but Schruder is great Westbrook insurance, Portland could as well but they have a great HCA and New Orleans could but they have Davis. Thibs has blown what should have been an up and coming team to create the TimberBulls and he ruined it. [/QUOTE]