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Message: [QUOTE="Knicks411, post: 2915191, member: 767"] Would be like any team that passes on Zion this year (though I dont think that's going to happen) I don't like to compliment Bill Simmons a lot, but I think he had a good take on the 84 draft in his book, he basically said something like even now, hard to kill Houston for taking Hakeem over MJ. A 7 footer that skilled and good, can't hate the pick. Even though Jordan became Jordan. Bowie on the other hand... So here's a dumb stat. I was looking at the Blazers, in the 1990-92 period they won over 57 games every year, made the finals twice, but never won a title. So I was curious, how many teams have won 55 games over a 3 season stretch without winning a ring. Play index made this harder than I thought, here's what I have, if anyone cares 1) Milwaukee Bucks-They won 182 games from 72-74. This is kind of a cheat though, because they won 66 games (and a title) in the 71 season. 2) Philly- Won 179 games from 80-82, but again, something of a cheat because they won the title the next year, in 83 3) Blazers, as discussed 4) Knicks won 172 games from 93-95. Not really a cheat, but worth pointing out the Blazers won 57 games or more over the 3 years, I set the search to 55, if you make it 57, the Knicks drop out since they won 55 in in 95 5) Thunder- There are a few ways to look at this. Purely by win totals, they don't qualify, due to the lockout in 2012 where they won at a 58 game pace. Give them credit for that, they had a 4 year run where they won 232 games (2011-14). Otherwise, not on this list. 6) Suns won 177 games from 93-95; much like the Knicks, they fall off if you move it up from 55 to 57. 7) Kings had a 4 year stretch (2001-04) where they won 230 games, but would fall off if 57 was the threshold because they won 55 in the first and last year of the stretch 8) Spurs- From 94-96, they won 176 games, but again, had a pesky 55 win season, then from 15-17, won 183 games (again, with a 55 win season in there) 9) Sonics from 93-98 had a 6 year stretch where they won 357 games. It did start with a 55 win season, but even taking that out, you have a 5 year stretch with 301 wins. Crazy, in that 4 year stretch they made the finals once, lost in the first round twice, and lost in the second round twice 10) Finally, Utah. They are kind of like the Thunder; the lockout season in 99 makes this a little tricky. Not looking at it, they had a 4 year stretch with 241 wins from 95-98, however, 96 was a 55 win season, so if you want to be annoying, you can throw that out. However, in 99, they won at a 60 win pace, so you could argue they had a 5 year stretch with 301 wins, including 3 in a row with 60. Those Sonics teams, that's crazy to me. 6 years of 55 wins or more and one finals appearance to show for it. (the 55 win season that started it, they did make the conf finals at least) But 6 seasons, they won 357 games, and they won 6 total playoff series in those seasons [/QUOTE]

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