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Message: [QUOTE="bpo57, post: 1423747, member: 1572"] OZ- fair points. The reference to Wilt and Jo Jo White was a joke. I even attached a smiley face to indicate that. When you made the reference to Dave Bing I feared you took me seriously. Honestly, I can't believe I have to argue the case that SU players have struggled to get into the NBA and then perform well when there. In the context of a top 15 program. That to me is really obvious but getting SU fans to agree to that was never going to be easy. We disagree. Let's just leave it there. Best to you as well. [/QUOTE]