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[QUOTE="Knicks411, post: 2603252, member: 767"]
Even as recently as 10 months ago no one would've called Oladipo a gem.  I guess at least you can say most people thought the Bennett pick was a disaster from the jump.

The big problem the pro Paul argument (which I am on the side of) runs into is the lack of playoff success.

One thing that really stood out to me on your rundown; Isiah didn't get much love at all in the MVP.  He finished 5th once, that was his best showing.  Plus an 8th and 2 9th.   Yet he did make first team all league 3 times.

Also interesting; the Pistons made the finals in 88 and won the title in 89 and 90.  Those years Isiah finished 12th, 17th, and 13th in MVP, and didn't make all league.  Now granted, the first team backcourt those years was Jordan and Magic, you aren't cracking that, but not even second team?  Not even top 10 in MVP?

Meanwhile, CP3 has been in the top 7 (which is higher than every season but one for Isiah) in the MVP 7 times, including 3 times in the top 4, better than Isiah ever did
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