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Message: [QUOTE="MikeSU02, post: 1758630, member: 60"] I think the versatility thing gets overplayed, I really do. Dray would get smoked by any old school big center. He's just in a time where people don't have post games anymore. KD is considered to have a post game and he basically has 1/100th the low post arsenal of Kevin McHale. The best players are either PGs or wing players now, so I'd take Kawhi over him ten times out of ten to start a team if I only had to decide between the two. This isn't to say I think he's bad. He should absolutely be on an all-nba team and the all-defensive team. So I don't want to make it seem like I'm crapping on him. I just don't think he's an elite player, meaning one of the top 7 players (Steph, Bron, Kawhi, KD, Russ, CP3 and Ant Davis). The most impressive thing that Dray does on offense is run a 4 on 3 (post pick and roll) and seems to always make the best decision. It's amazing. He's right up there with Blake as a big that can pass. [/QUOTE]