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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 1782093, member: 652"] I still think Cleveland would have beaten Oklahoma City because of HCA. Only the Spurs or Warriors would have beaten Cleveland for sure. Both SA and GS have elite Lebron stoppers in Leonard and Iguadola. Plus, both teams as a result don't have to double Lebron and leave his shooters wide open. It doesn't help that Cleveland doesn't have any lockdown defenders either as Iman Shumpert doesn't play as much anymore. Irving and Love are subpar defenders. Thompson is active but is a rich man's Baye Moussa Keita. Cleveland is 3rd best team in the league because of Lebron James greatness. Miami was perfect roster for him. Dwayne Wade was the perfect 2nd banana and was a good defender. Chris Bosh could defend and stretched the floor. Mike Miller/Shane Battier were the good role players. Mario Chalmers/Chris Anderson role players. This Cleveland team is not that good without Lebron James. [/QUOTE]