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Message: [QUOTE="Melancer46, post: 3601326, member: 1674"] I tend to think Holiday is overrated but am hoping Budenholzer and the Bucks supporting cast can help elevate him more, but to answer the question, neither Holiday or Davis are all that special in terms of creating shots and the rest of their team was basically made up of guys that shouldn't be playing in the NBA. I'd also say it's unfair to say they didn't do jack squat. It was hell trying to get into the playoffs in the West and the one time Davis and Holiday were both healthy they went 48-34 with their 3rd best player being a half season of Cousins and a half season of Nikola Mirotic. And after that their best player was Etwaun Moore, who is a league minimum caliber player. [/QUOTE]