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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 4259548, member: 237"] So it will be interesting to see how Jokic is viewed in the lens of Nuggets lore. Clearly he has earned the NBA MVP. It took him 3 years to get to the playoffs but has helped Denver get out of the first round twice and to the conference finals once. Oddly enough losing to LA just like Melo did when he got them there. Melo helped a team go from 17-65 to 7 straight playoffs including the year he was traded. He helped boost a franchise that has been more formidable and a playoff threat nearly every year since vs an afterthought and a few Mutombo memories ( unless you go much further back). Yet it is funny how much people crown Jokic as the ultimate Nugget. Stats wise yes. Otherwise he has more first round pelts and MVPs but that is about it. Also I like Jokic as a player a lot just funny how things are looked at. Where is Denver if Detroit doesn't screw up and does nab Melo? [/QUOTE]