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Message: [QUOTE="Knicks411, post: 4259796, member: 767"] I take your point. Melo was very good for Denver. No question. Melo played 564 games for Denver, Jokic is at 527. (regular season. And Jokic is an iron man, and lost 26 games due to the pandemic, so it's really closer) Jokic has actually played more playoff games as a Nugget, 48 vs 45. Denver made one conf finals with Melo, and didn't win a round in any other season, Denver made the conf finals in 2020 and won 2 other playoff rounds in 19 and 21. And on the court, it's not even close. Melo is an all star but Jokic is a 2 time MVP. Credit to Melo for digging them out of a huge hole (of course he had help, thats how this works, but he was the top guy) but I dunno, maybe the crazy pills was too much. But it's not like we're talking about 10 good-great seasons for one guy and 3 elite for the other. The volume is pretty close to even and the quality is a step above. [/QUOTE]